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’cause Jim was into hip-hop and rap and he liked to grab a mic himself. Jim connected with these guys. He’d find out about their backgrounds, talk to them. I think that really hit him. Like he was seeing young guys that came from terrible neighborhoods that never really had a chance. And I think he started seeing like, there are people who need their stories told. The prison that we were transferred to was filled with all these political prisoners from all walks of life. Some were fishermen, some were engineers. It was the warmth of these Libyans that said, “Here, you’re our guest, take this bed. You don’t have a cigarette, here’s a cigarette,” you know. “You want an extra piece of chicken, here.” These guys understand that I’m a journalist and I’m trying to get the truth and perhaps wrongly they think I’m on their side, but I certainly feel like it now. You know that if you are kinda without hope, you’re totally humbled, you tend to go to your faith if you have faith. Praying five times a day, it was the life, it was their only source of life in prison. I was up nights talking to them. Eventually, you know, one of them said, “Why don’t you pray with us?” And I said, “No, I don’t pray to east, I pray to Jesus,” when you guys are praying. He sort of looked at me, like, “Okay.” Well, I guess I’m experiential person so I started praying with them. Well, little did I know I just proclaimed my conversion to Islam. So from then on out, I prayed with them five times a day and it was just… It was so powerful and it was something that I needed to do. But it was difficult, I was thinking, you know, “Jesus, am I praying to Allah?” “Am I violating my belief in you?” I don’t have an answer to that. I just know that I was authentically praying with them and I was authentically also praying to Jesus. Jim and I were very close in age, looked enough alike that you know, I used his ID in college, but that’s about it. We couldn’t be more different. I mean, Jim was really different from most of us, right? I mean, to do what he went on to do. It’s not a normal path. When Jim was taken in Libya, I just went to overdrive at that point. It’s a nightmare. Each day, it becomes harder you know, with the lack of information. We know he’s in Tripoli. We believe he’s in a detention center. We really don’t know much more beyond that. We organized this huge group of Jimmy’s friends, we called them FOJ’s. Friends Of Jim. We had a lot of outside help, but Michael was sort of the CEO of the group. His statement was, you know, “There are no immeasurables other than getting Jim home.” Our biggest fear is that it becomes yesterday’s story and people forget about it. We love Jim and we miss him. We want him home. Tell me about the release, what was that day like for you guys? After successful diplomatic negotiations, two American journalists and a Spanish journalist are finally going home after being kidnapped and detained by the Libyan government forces for days. What’s your name? Manu Brabo. Are you okay? I’m fine. If you didn’t catch it the first time around,